Hi Daniel, Yes, oXygen already breaks lines at <lb/> elements in Author mode. This is done by making lb a block and displaying an empty string as its content, thus making it invisible but forcing the following text to go on a new line: lb:before{ content:""; } lb { display:block; } Users can also modify the CSS files if they want to or provide additional or alternate CSS rules either at the framework level or directly within the document itself, in the later case using an xml-stylesheet processing instruction. Syd was talking about the Text editing mode. We treat space preserve versus mixed content versus element only content but the semantics of lb is somehow special... For example, if we have: <p>test<lb/>new line</p> Then oXygen will consider this as mixed content and it will not add new whitespace where there is none, that means it will never add whitespace immediately before or after <lb/> in this case. This <p>test <lb/>new line</p> is not equivalent to the original is you apply a space normalization algorithm on the text content of the p element but in this case the semantics of <lb/> itself implies a whitespace so theoretically they are equivalent. However, there is no way to say in a schema language that an element represents whitespace, so oXygen cannot infer that information from the schema. I guess that may be yet another option, plus the choices to define where to split the line on formatting, for example the following is also a possible option: <p>test<lb/> new line</p> or <p>test <lb/> new line</p> Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com On 27/10/14 21:49, Daniel O'Donnell wrote:
So just to be clear. What you're saying George is that you basically need to hand format it and then tell Oxygen not to format the parent element (at least in terms of spaces and line breaks).
Oxygen's display is CSS driven, isn't it? Is there a technical reason why tei:lb and html:br couldn't be added to the CSS so that they would break? The relevant CSS exists, right? Could a user modify the sheets? Or is some other mechanism used?
Or is Syd talking about the editor mode here?
On 14-10-27 12:59 PM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Syd,
I do not think that is possible with any of the current settings.. You should set space preserve on a p or ancestor element and then format it as you want and oXygen's format and indent will leave it like that.
<text> <body> <p xml:space="preserve">I call our world Flatland, not because we call it so, but to make <lb/>its nature clearer to you, my happy readers, who are privileged to live <lb/>in Space.</p> <p xml:space="preserve">Imagine a vast sheet of paper on which straight Lines, Triangles, <lb/>Squares, Pentagons, Hexagons, and other figures, instead of remaining <lb/>fixed in their places, move freely about, on or in the surface, but without <lb/>the power of rising above or sinking below it, very much like shadows <lb/>—only hard with luminous edges—and you will then have a pretty <lb/>correct notion of my country and countrymen. Alas, a few years ago, <lb/>I should have said “my universe:” but now my mind has been opened <lb/>to higher views of things.</p> </body> </text>
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 27/10/14 19:25, Syd Bauman wrote:
A few hours ago Ute Recker-Hamm posted a wonderful question to TEI-L, the main list for the Text Encoding Initiative.[1]
She basically asked "what do y'all do to get your physical lines, as encoded with the empty TEI <lb> element, to line up nicely in oXygen?".
I remember asking a similar question a few years ago, and vaguely recall being told that manipulating the options under "Preferences > Editor / Format / XML" (in particular the "Preserve space" and "Default space" lists) should get format-and-indent to do the trick. However, I recall that I never got it working to my satisfaction, and when I look through the archives of this list now, I can't find the answer I recall.
So what is "it" that I want format-and-indent to do? When given a text that looks like this:
view A ---- - <p>I call our world Flatland, not because we call it so, but to make <lb/>its nature clearer to you, my happy readers, who are privileged to live <lb/>in Space.</p> <p>Imagine a vast sheet of paper on which straight Lines, Triangles, <lb/>Squares, Pentagons, Hexagons, and other figures, instead of remaining <lb/>fixed in their places, move freely about, on or in the surface, but without <lb/>the power of rising above or sinking below it, very much like shadows <lb/>—only hard with luminous edges—and you will then have a pretty <lb/>correct notion of my country and countrymen. Alas, a few years ago, <lb/>I should have said “my universe:” but now my mind has been opened <lb/>to higher views of things.</p>
I'd like it to end up formatted as it is now -- with each <lb> starting a new line. If the desired line length were long enough, it wouldn't be changed at all. If the desired line length were shorter, it might look like this:
view B ---- - <p>I call our world Flatland, not because we call it so, but to make <lb/>its nature clearer to you, my happy readers, who are privileged to live <lb/>in Space.</p> <p>Imagine a vast sheet of paper on which straight Lines, Triangles, <lb/>Squares, Pentagons, Hexagons, and other figures, instead of remaining <lb/>fixed in their places, move freely about, on or in the surface, but without <lb/>the power of rising above or sinking below it, very much like shadows <lb/>—only hard with luminous edges—and you will then have a pretty <lb/>correct notion of my country and countrymen. Alas, a few years ago, <lb/>I should have said “my universe:” but now my mind has been opened <lb/>to higher views of things.</p>
What I *don't* want is for format-and-indent to make it look like this:
view C ---- -
<p>I call our world Flatland, not because we call it so, but to make <lb/>its nature clearer to you, my happy readers, who are privileged to live <lb/>in Space.</p> <p>Imagine a vast sheet of paper on which straight Lines, Triangles, <lb/>Squares, Pentagons, Hexagons, and other figures, instead of remaining <lb/>fixed in their places, move freely about, on or in the surface, but without <lb/>the power of rising above or sinking below it, very much like shadows <lb/>—only hard with luminous edges—and you will then have a pretty <lb/>correct notion of my country and countrymen. Alas, a few years ago, <lb/>I should have said “my universe:” but now my mind has been opened <lb/>to higher views of things.</p>
In fact, if I had my druthers, an input document that looked like view C would come out of the processing looking like view A or B.
Note ---- [1] Those of you who are members of a TEI list at Brown can find it at https://listserv.brown.edu/?A2=ind1410&L=tei-l&F=&S=&P=64155. I have not re-produced it here because I did not get the original poster's permission to do so. (Not that I think it is illegal or immoral to re-post without such permission, only that it's rude.) _______________________________________________ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
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