What does Apple's deprecation of Java mean for oXygen?

Dear oXygen Users, Apple recently announced that future versions of Mac OS X may no longer include a Java runtime: <http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html%23//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1> Any idea what that will mean for the future of Java-based apps like oXygen? Will a Mac version of oXygen bring its own JRE, or will we need to download one from somewhere else to run oXygen? I know it's a long way off, but just curious what this announcement will mean... Roger

Hello, Apple has marked as deprecated their Java Virtual Machine (JVM) implementation. This means that starting with the next version of Mac OS X 10.7, this JVM may be removed [on Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.6 Java will remain built-in]. Starting with Mac OS X 10.7 all Java applications will most likely have to use another third party JVM. Unfortunately, at this time, no other JVM has a user interface integration in the operating system anywhere as good as the one currently offered by Apple. Current situation: oXygen has two distributions: - the standalone AWT/Swing application - the SWT plugin for Eclipse. AWT/Swing based applications like Netbeans, JDeveloper and the standalone version of oXygen, will all be affected. The result will be a user interface that is not smoothly integrated in the Mac look and feel, and possibly the entire application being displayed using the X Window System. Eclipse has the nice feature of using native user interface controls on each platform, directly, without the need of AWT. So, an application using SWT will look and perform exactly the same, no matter the JVM it uses. What we can do: 1. If no JVM rises to the challenge of implementing AWT/Swing support with the appropriate Mac look and feel, we'll pack a stripped down version of Eclipse (called a Rich Client Platform) with the oXygen XML Editor plugin and the OpenJDK JVM. This has already been tested and works on the current Mac OS X operating systems independent from the Apple JVM. This may very well be the new oXygen distribution for Mac OS X 10.7. 2. If things go as they should, Oracle will pick up where Apple left off and will provide a JVM for the Mac, with full AWT/Swing integration. In this case, the standalone oXygen distribution will continue its existence on the Mac OS X platform in its current form, possibly with the JVM built-in to make it work out-of-the-box. So, unless Apple completely closes Mac OS X to Java applications, which is very unlikely, Oxygen will continue to have a Mac OS X distribution that integrates as well as possible with the operating system and its graphical interface. Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza oXygen XML Editor and Author support support@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com Roger wrote:
Dear oXygen Users,
Apple recently announced that future versions of Mac OS X may no longer include a Java runtime:
Any idea what that will mean for the future of Java-based apps like oXygen?
Will a Mac version of oXygen bring its own JRE, or will we need to download one from somewhere else to run oXygen?
I know it's a long way off, but just curious what this announcement will mean...
Roger _______________________________________________ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/12openjdk.html
Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
REDWOOD SHORES and CUPERTINO, California—November 12, 2010—Oracle and Apple® today announced the OpenJDK project for Mac OS® X. Apple will contribute most of the key components, tools and technology required for a Java SE 7 implementation on Mac OS X, including a 32-bit and 64-bit HotSpot-based Java virtual machine, class libraries, a networking stack and the foundation for a new graphical client. OpenJDK will make Apple’s Java technology available to open source developers so they can access and contribute to the effort.
“We are excited to welcome Apple as a significant contributor in the growing OpenJDK community,” said Hasan Rizvi, Oracle’s senior vice president of Development. “The availability of Java on Mac OS X plays a key role in the cross-platform promise of the Java platform. The Java developer community can rest assured that the leading edge Java environment will continue to be available on Mac OS X in the future. Combined with last month’s announcement of IBM joining the OpenJDK, the project now has the backing of three of the biggest names in software.”
“We’re delighted to be working with Oracle to insure that there continues to be a great version of Java on the Mac,” said Bertrand Serlet, Apple’s senior vice president of Software Engineering. “The best way for our users to always have the most up to date and secure version of Java will be to get it directly from Oracle.”
Apple also confirmed that Java SE 6 will continue to be available from Apple for Mac OS X Snow Leopard® and the upcoming release of Mac OS X Lion. Java SE 7 and future versions of Java for Mac OS X will be available from Oracle.
Java is a general purpose software development platform that is specifically designed to be open and enable application developers to “write once, run anywhere.” The Java platform is most widely used in business software, web and mobile applications.
For more information on Java, visit:
• Java Platform, Standard Edition • OpenJDK • JDK 7 Feature Roadmap
Aaron Davis System Engineer Higher Education DC/MD/VA Apple Inc. (301) 529-3592 adavis@apple.com
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Roger wrote:
Dear oXygen Users,
Apple recently announced that future versions of Mac OS X may no longer include a Java runtime:
Any idea what that will mean for the future of Java-based apps like oXygen?
Will a Mac version of oXygen bring its own JRE, or will we need to download one from somewhere else to run oXygen?
I know it's a long way off, but just curious what this announcement will mean...
Roger _______________________________________________ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
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