oXygen 21.x running on Windows: Is there a way to make icons smaller?

Hi Kristen, I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p... However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb... Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Thank, George. I know (and appreciate!) that the tool bars are configurable. I've (temporarily, I hope) removed all of them to get more room to work. But it is less than optimal, and I would not want to screen share with any clients while oXygen is configured like this. Best, Kris Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype) On 12/16/2019 8:51 AM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Kristen,
I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p...
However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb...
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Hi Kristen, Somehow for this use case in which you have a small screen area and the toolbars get in the way I had this idea of adding a new action called "Hide toolbars" to the Oxygen "Window" menu. There is already an action there called "Maximize editing area" which hides the side views so maybe these two actions would go well together. Both actions (the one which hides side views and the one which hides the toolbars) would be toggle actions and you could assign keyboard shortcuts to them so that when you want to maximize the editing area you could hide both the side views and the toolbars. The main menu has most actions inside it anyway and the content completion window makes the Author toolbar redundant in a way. Also the regular shortcuts for saving, opening files would still work. So maybe people could increase the editing area and edit distraction free and by hiding toolbars and side views. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com On 12/16/2019 7:44 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Thank, George. I know (and appreciate!) that the tool bars are configurable. I've (temporarily, I hope) removed all of them to get more room to work. But it is less than optimal, and I would not want to screen share with any clients while oXygen is configured like this.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/16/2019 8:51 AM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Kristen,
I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p...
However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb...
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Hi, Radu. I think a "Hide toolbars" action would be very helpful. Best, Kris Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype) On 12/17/2019 2:50 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:
Hi Kristen,
Somehow for this use case in which you have a small screen area and the toolbars get in the way I had this idea of adding a new action called "Hide toolbars" to the Oxygen "Window" menu. There is already an action there called "Maximize editing area" which hides the side views so maybe these two actions would go well together.
Both actions (the one which hides side views and the one which hides the toolbars) would be toggle actions and you could assign keyboard shortcuts to them so that when you want to maximize the editing area you could hide both the side views and the toolbars. The main menu has most actions inside it anyway and the content completion window makes the Author toolbar redundant in a way. Also the regular shortcuts for saving, opening files would still work.
So maybe people could increase the editing area and edit distraction free and by hiding toolbars and side views.
Regards, Radu
Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/16/2019 7:44 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Thank, George. I know (and appreciate!) that the tool bars are configurable. I've (temporarily, I hope) removed all of them to get more room to work. But it is less than optimal, and I would not want to screen share with any clients while oXygen is configured like this.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/16/2019 8:51 AM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Kristen,
I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p...
However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb...
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Hi Kris, Right, if we manage to implement it I will also find such a feature useful when using Oxygen with a low resolution projector to present pieces of XML or XSLT content to the audience because the action would free available screen space. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com On 12/18/2019 1:44 AM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Hi, Radu.
I think a "Hide toolbars" action would be very helpful.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/17/2019 2:50 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:
Hi Kristen,
Somehow for this use case in which you have a small screen area and the toolbars get in the way I had this idea of adding a new action called "Hide toolbars" to the Oxygen "Window" menu. There is already an action there called "Maximize editing area" which hides the side views so maybe these two actions would go well together.
Both actions (the one which hides side views and the one which hides the toolbars) would be toggle actions and you could assign keyboard shortcuts to them so that when you want to maximize the editing area you could hide both the side views and the toolbars. The main menu has most actions inside it anyway and the content completion window makes the Author toolbar redundant in a way. Also the regular shortcuts for saving, opening files would still work.
So maybe people could increase the editing area and edit distraction free and by hiding toolbars and side views.
Regards, Radu
Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/16/2019 7:44 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Thank, George. I know (and appreciate!) that the tool bars are configurable. I've (temporarily, I hope) removed all of them to get more room to work. But it is less than optimal, and I would not want to screen share with any clients while oXygen is configured like this.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/16/2019 8:51 AM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Kristen,
I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p...
However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb...
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Exactly! I really appreciate how thoughtful all of you on the oXygen development team are. Best, Kris Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype) On 12/18/2019 6:46 AM, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
Hi Kris,
Right, if we manage to implement it I will also find such a feature useful when using Oxygen with a low resolution projector to present pieces of XML or XSLT content to the audience because the action would free available screen space.
Regards, Radu
Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/18/2019 1:44 AM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Hi, Radu.
I think a "Hide toolbars" action would be very helpful.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/17/2019 2:50 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:
Hi Kristen,
Somehow for this use case in which you have a small screen area and the toolbars get in the way I had this idea of adding a new action called "Hide toolbars" to the Oxygen "Window" menu. There is already an action there called "Maximize editing area" which hides the side views so maybe these two actions would go well together.
Both actions (the one which hides side views and the one which hides the toolbars) would be toggle actions and you could assign keyboard shortcuts to them so that when you want to maximize the editing area you could hide both the side views and the toolbars. The main menu has most actions inside it anyway and the content completion window makes the Author toolbar redundant in a way. Also the regular shortcuts for saving, opening files would still work.
So maybe people could increase the editing area and edit distraction free and by hiding toolbars and side views.
Regards, Radu
Radu Coravu <oXygen/> XML Editor http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/16/2019 7:44 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
Thank, George. I know (and appreciate!) that the tool bars are configurable. I've (temporarily, I hope) removed all of them to get more room to work. But it is less than optimal, and I would not want to screen share with any clients while oXygen is configured like this.
Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
On 12/16/2019 8:51 AM, George Bina wrote:
Hi Kristen,
I guess one of my colleagues will respond with more details regarding the icons size, it may be an issue with the HiDPI detecttion and we have support to manually control that: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/custom-system-p...
However, the toolbars are fully configurable, you can remove or arrange the toolbar as you want: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/21.1/ug-editor/topics/configure-toolb...
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 12/14/19 2:06 PM, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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Hello, I'm guessing you have scaling (size of apps and text) set to 150% or more in the Windows Display settings (Settings > System > Display, Scale and layout). Could you please confirm what scaling setting you are currently using? Oxygen has only two sets of resources (icons), one for 100% (1x) and one for 200% (2x) scaling (twice as big). In v20.1 and older for any system scaling value lower than 200% Oxygen picked the smaller resources, so even though you had 150% or 175% (or even 199%) scaling in Windows, Oxygen still used the 100% (1x) resources. Only the text was adjusted according to the Windows scaling. Many users in this situation complained that icons are too small and toolbar buttons are difficult to click, so*starting with v21.0 we decided to use the 200% (2x) resources when ***system scaling is *150% or higher.* So, if you are in this range of 150%-199% scaling, switching from Oxygen v20.1 or older to v21 will seem that everything is twice as big in the new version. For 150% I'm guessing there may be some situations (e.g. tree views) where icons overlap a little since they are a bit larger than their placeholders. *While it's not user friendly, you can still switch the icons to be 100% (1x)*, like in v20.1, if the current setup bothers you. Create a file named 'custom_commons.vmoptions' with the following argument -Dcom.oxygenxml.hidpi.icon.scaling=1 For your convenience, I've created and attached the file with the mentioned argument. Copy/Move this file to the Oxygen installation folder (you will need admin rights to allow write access to the Oxygen folder from "Program Files"). Please let me know if you need additional assistance. Regards, Adrian On 14.12.2019 14:06, Kristen James Eberlein wrote:
I'd like to move to oXygen 21.x, but I'm being blocked by the size of the icons. In the screen capture below, you can see how little room I have for editing ...
Is there an option to use smaller icons? Did I do something wrong in the installation?
-- Best, Kris
Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting www.eberleinconsulting.com +1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)
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-- Adrian Buza oXygen XML Editor and Author Support Tel: +1-650-352-1250 ext.2020 Fax: +40-251-461482
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Radu Coravu