What is better: bold the names or bold the values?
Hi, We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities: - bold the attribute names as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg or - bold the values, as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg Do you have a preference for any of these? Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
Definitely bold names. Cheers, E. On 1/23/09 9:54 AM, "George Cristian Bina" <george@oxygenxml.com> wrote:
Hi,
We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities:
- bold the attribute names as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg
or
- bold the values, as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg
Do you have a preference for any of these?
Best Regards, George
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I much prefer bold names. -----Original Message----- From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of George Cristian Bina Sent: 23 January 2009 15:55 To: Oxygen User Subject: [oXygen-user] What is better: bold the names or bold the values? Hi, We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities: - bold the attribute names as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg or - bold the values, as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg Do you have a preference for any of these? Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com _______________________________________________ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
George Cristian Bina wrote:
We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually.
Great, looks nice!
Do you have a preference for any of these?
Good question. Bolding the value emphasizes "what we typed down" so could seems more natural, while bolding the name emphasizes on the semantics of the attributes. So I would say the later. But really, both seems equally usable. An alternative (sorry, I know you asked for an answer, not a question :-p) would be to bold both, or just write them in the normal font while putting name and value of defaults in gray. This is maybe more intuitive: what we typed is "normal," while defaults are given less visual importance (the info is there, but more light.) Hope that helps, -- Florent Georges http://www.fgeorges.org/
I prefer the bolding of values because that is the thing your modifying. Bolding of the name implies something special about that name which is not the case here. -- Paul Ryan -----Original Message----- From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of George Cristian Bina Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:55 AM To: Oxygen User Subject: [oXygen-user] What is better: bold the names or bold the values? Hi, We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities: - bold the attribute names as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg or - bold the values, as you can see in http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg Do you have a preference for any of these? Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com _______________________________________________ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
On 1/23/2009 12:06 PM, Paul Ryan wrote:
I prefer the bolding of values because that is the thing your modifying. Bolding of the name implies something special about that name which is not the case here.
George, I was going to disagree with Paul but, having looked back more carefully at what distinction the bold is intended to indicate, I would come down tentatively on the side of bolding the values. As I understand your question, the distinction you're drawing with regard to attributes is not intrinsic to those attributes, but is totally dependent on whether the user has entered a value in that instance. Am I right? In that case I think the distinction is a distinction of value, not of the attributes themselves, so it would make more sense to bold the value. (Or both.) My 2 cents... Thanks for asking. Lars
-- Paul Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of George Cristian Bina Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:55 AM To: Oxygen User Subject: [oXygen-user] What is better: bold the names or bold the values?
Hi,
We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities:
- bold the attribute names as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg
or
- bold the values, as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg
Do you have a preference for any of these?
Best Regards, George
well, that's exactly how Netbeans does it - the name goes bold when you edit the value. (I would say taking inspiration from Netbeans when its come to the interface is always a good idea :) 2009/1/23 Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
On 1/23/2009 12:06 PM, Paul Ryan wrote:
I prefer the bolding of values because that is the thing your modifying. Bolding of the name implies something special about that name which is not the case here.
George, I was going to disagree with Paul but, having looked back more carefully at what distinction the bold is intended to indicate, I would come down tentatively on the side of bolding the values. As I understand your question, the distinction you're drawing with regard to attributes is not intrinsic to those attributes, but is totally dependent on whether the user has entered a value in that instance. Am I right? In that case I think the distinction is a distinction of value, not of the attributes themselves, so it would make more sense to bold the value. (Or both.)
My 2 cents...
Thanks for asking.
Lars
+1 Bold Names On 23-Jan-09, at 7:54 AM, George Cristian Bina wrote:
Hi,
We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities:
- bold the attribute names as you can see in
Bolding Attribute Names is the most natural. the Attribute Name is of prime importance for distinguishing what the Value pertains to. Any person who uses or has used a spreadsheet or graph layout will recognize intuitively the relationship.
or
- bold the values, as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg
Do you have a preference for any of these?
Best Regards, George --
Thank you all for your feedback! We decided to give you a better taste of the new version :) by providing an early access build. Details will follow shortly. Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com George Cristian Bina wrote:
Hi,
We need your feedback on one of the oXygen 10.1 features. We implemented a new XML Schema editor where XML Schemas can be edited visually. The properties of the selected component are available in a side view (Attributes view). Now, some attributes are specified by the user, some other have default values. For marking the specified ones we though of two possibilities:
- bold the attribute names as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldNames.jpg
or
- bold the values, as you can see in
http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/boldValues.jpg
Do you have a preference for any of these?
Best Regards, George
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Andrew Welch -
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Florent Georges -
George Cristian Bina -
John Fitzpatrick -
Lars Huttar -
Mars Sjoden -
Paul Ryan