Oxygen for creating Drupal content?

I'm curious whether anybody has any experience in using Oxygen (either with Java Web Start or as an applet) for creating XML content -- 'entities' in Drupal-speak -- to be managed by a Drupal 7 CMS? Creating a locked-down Oxygen JWS [2] or applet [3] distribution with a single framework and any required extra jars seems simple enough, but getting Drupal to handle XML as XML doesn't seem to be as well documented for Drupal 7 as it was for Drupal 6 [1], and getting content in and out of Drupal seems to only be well defined for its native node types. As such, I have no great expectation that it can be done but would be interested to hear if anyone has managed it. Regards, Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming [1] Though not by Drupal folks themselves, and unavailable today: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/ [2] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/tasks/jwsInstaller.html [3] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/component_web_deployment.html

Hi Tony, We've often used oXygen to create content later imported into drupal (using Feeds module), but never using the JWS/applet version as a replacement for the editor. I know of a project where this could potentially be useful, and so would also be interested in hearing of anyone who had done this. I realise that is just a longer version of a 'me too'. -James On 15/04/13 09:51, Tony Graham wrote:
I'm curious whether anybody has any experience in using Oxygen (either with Java Web Start or as an applet) for creating XML content -- 'entities' in Drupal-speak -- to be managed by a Drupal 7 CMS?
Creating a locked-down Oxygen JWS [2] or applet [3] distribution with a single framework and any required extra jars seems simple enough, but getting Drupal to handle XML as XML doesn't seem to be as well documented for Drupal 7 as it was for Drupal 6 [1], and getting content in and out of Drupal seems to only be well defined for its native node types. As such, I have no great expectation that it can be done but would be interested to hear if anyone has managed it.
Regards,
Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming
[1] Though not by Drupal folks themselves, and unavailable today: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/ [2] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/tasks/jwsInstaller.html [3] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/component_web_deployment.html
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Hi Toni, James, I am in Providence, RI for the DITA North America conference and there is someone here that works with Drupal trying to use it for DITA. I will get in touch with him today about the XML support in Drupal 7 and I will let you know if he has some hints on that. Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com On 4/15/13 3:09 PM, James Cummings wrote:
Hi Tony,
We've often used oXygen to create content later imported into drupal (using Feeds module), but never using the JWS/applet version as a replacement for the editor. I know of a project where this could potentially be useful, and so would also be interested in hearing of anyone who had done this.
I realise that is just a longer version of a 'me too'.
-James
On 15/04/13 09:51, Tony Graham wrote:
I'm curious whether anybody has any experience in using Oxygen (either with Java Web Start or as an applet) for creating XML content -- 'entities' in Drupal-speak -- to be managed by a Drupal 7 CMS?
Creating a locked-down Oxygen JWS [2] or applet [3] distribution with a single framework and any required extra jars seems simple enough, but getting Drupal to handle XML as XML doesn't seem to be as well documented for Drupal 7 as it was for Drupal 6 [1], and getting content in and out of Drupal seems to only be well defined for its native node types. As such, I have no great expectation that it can be done but would be interested to hear if anyone has managed it.
Regards,
Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming
[1] Though not by Drupal folks themselves, and unavailable today: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/ [2] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/tasks/jwsInstaller.html [3] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/component_web_deployment.html
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Hi Tony and James, I was in touch with Kristof Van Tomme - kristof at pronovix.com - you can contact him also directly at this address. He mentioned that this module might be a good starting point: http://drupal.org/project/xml_field He was also asking about what D6 functionality from Drupal 6 you were referring to, that is changes in Drupal 7? He also mentioned that his company can help if someone wants to sponsor the development of an Oxygen module for Drupal. You may contact him also directly if you want to follow up on this. Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com On 4/16/13 3:40 AM, George Cristian Bina wrote:
Hi Toni, James,
I am in Providence, RI for the DITA North America conference and there is someone here that works with Drupal trying to use it for DITA. I will get in touch with him today about the XML support in Drupal 7 and I will let you know if he has some hints on that.
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 4/15/13 3:09 PM, James Cummings wrote:
Hi Tony,
We've often used oXygen to create content later imported into drupal (using Feeds module), but never using the JWS/applet version as a replacement for the editor. I know of a project where this could potentially be useful, and so would also be interested in hearing of anyone who had done this.
I realise that is just a longer version of a 'me too'.
-James
On 15/04/13 09:51, Tony Graham wrote:
I'm curious whether anybody has any experience in using Oxygen (either with Java Web Start or as an applet) for creating XML content -- 'entities' in Drupal-speak -- to be managed by a Drupal 7 CMS?
Creating a locked-down Oxygen JWS [2] or applet [3] distribution with a single framework and any required extra jars seems simple enough, but getting Drupal to handle XML as XML doesn't seem to be as well documented for Drupal 7 as it was for Drupal 6 [1], and getting content in and out of Drupal seems to only be well defined for its native node types. As such, I have no great expectation that it can be done but would be interested to hear if anyone has managed it.
Regards,
Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming
[1] Though not by Drupal folks themselves, and unavailable today: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/ [2] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/tasks/jwsInstaller.html [3] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/component_web_deployment.html
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Here's the module Kristof created a while back: http://drupal.org/project/dita It hasn't been updated in a while, but that may be changing soon. Matt -----Original Message----- From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of George Bina Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:24 PM To: James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Cc: oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] Oxygen for creating Drupal content? Hi Tony and James, I was in touch with Kristof Van Tomme - kristof at pronovix.com - you can contact him also directly at this address. He mentioned that this module might be a good starting point: http://drupal.org/project/xml_field He was also asking about what D6 functionality from Drupal 6 you were referring to, that is changes in Drupal 7? He also mentioned that his company can help if someone wants to sponsor the development of an Oxygen module for Drupal. You may contact him also directly if you want to follow up on this. Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com On 4/16/13 3:40 AM, George Cristian Bina wrote:
Hi Toni, James,
I am in Providence, RI for the DITA North America conference and there is someone here that works with Drupal trying to use it for DITA. I will get in touch with him today about the XML support in Drupal 7 and I will let you know if he has some hints on that.
Best Regards, George -- George Cristian Bina <oXygen/> XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger http://www.oxygenxml.com
On 4/15/13 3:09 PM, James Cummings wrote:
Hi Tony,
We've often used oXygen to create content later imported into drupal (using Feeds module), but never using the JWS/applet version as a replacement for the editor. I know of a project where this could potentially be useful, and so would also be interested in hearing of anyone who had done this.
I realise that is just a longer version of a 'me too'.
-James
On 15/04/13 09:51, Tony Graham wrote:
I'm curious whether anybody has any experience in using Oxygen (either with Java Web Start or as an applet) for creating XML content -- 'entities' in Drupal-speak -- to be managed by a Drupal 7 CMS?
Creating a locked-down Oxygen JWS [2] or applet [3] distribution with a single framework and any required extra jars seems simple enough, but getting Drupal to handle XML as XML doesn't seem to be as well documented for Drupal 7 as it was for Drupal 6 [1], and getting content in and out of Drupal seems to only be well defined for its native node types. As such, I have no great expectation that it can be done but would be interested to hear if anyone has managed it.
Regards,
Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming
[1] Though not by Drupal folks themselves, and unavailable today:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/ [2] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/tasks/jwsInstaller.html [3] http://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/component_web_deployme nt.html
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George, Thanks for following up on this. On Sat, April 20, 2013 11:23 pm, George Bina wrote: ...
He was also asking about what D6 functionality from Drupal 6 you were referring to, that is changes in Drupal 7?
Following the steps in the tutorial referred to below, I was fairly easily able to put some arbitrary XML into Drupal 6 as XML and transform it to HTML for display by Drupal, but AFAIK, some of the modules referred to in the tutorial, such as CCK, have been subsumed into the core of Drupal 7 under some different names, and I've yet to find how to replicate it with Drupal 7. ...
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-drupalxmltut/
I asked the original question because some folks who aren't clients of mine were casting around for how to use XML with Drupal 7, so I looked into it out of general interest. If there was an easy answer for how to do it with Drupal 7, I would be pointing them to it, but it looks like I'll have to leave them to their research. Regards, Tony Graham tgraham@mentea.net Consultant http://www.mentea.net Mentea 13 Kelly's Bay Beach, Skerries, Co. Dublin, Ireland -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- XML, XSL-FO and XSLT consulting, training and programming
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