
Hi Would oXygen or users on list have more information about this bundle: http://www.renderx.com/tools/docbench.html? Advantages it may offer over standalone oXygen 9 for purpose of technical authoring. It refers to DocBook/TEI, but not DITA, which is supported by oXygen 9. In which ways may XEP (one of the main bundle components, which can also be integrated with oXygen 9) be distinct from or advantageous to FOP .94? And otherwise, would the added value be mainly the offered stylesheets? And would it be the same oXygen UI? Thanks ka

If you don't have either a XEP or oXygen license, RenderX's DocBench bundle is a screaming bargain. For US$100 over the base price of XEP Desktop, you get both. As I remember, what DocBench provides is the standard oXygen Professional release, plus XEP in a directory parallel to the FOP directory. There is very little integration, but then, not much is needed. You run the standard oXygen, and can invoke a menu function to generate output through XEP in addition to FOP. One minor disadvantage is that DocBench starts oXygen from its own batch file, not from the clean oxygen.exe executable (for Windows). The startup is a little messy, and leaves a Command Prompt window hanging around. I no longer run DocBench per se, but instead have separate oXygen and XEP installations, and I call XEP from command-line build scripts. As for FOP vs XEP, I can only speak to FOP 0.92 vs XEP 4.10. The winner then was XEP by a mile. FOP-generated PDFs had trouble with long tables over page breaks, and other problems that XEP sailed through. I hear the FOP guys have made great strides since 0.92, and I plan to give 0.94 another look. But here's a strong hint as to which one's better: the PDF for Bob Stayton's DocBook XSL book is generated with XEP. That said, I caution you that there's just no way the RenderX guys have caught up the latest oXygen 9.0 release, which only occurred a few days ago. If you buy DocBench today, you will almost certainly get oXygen 8.2 in the bundle. However, the oXygen guys are very good about sending you the latest license file, even for DocBench users. ________________________________ From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of Khaled Aly Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:09 PM To: oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com Subject: [oXygen-user] Docbench Hi Would oXygen or users on list have more information about this bundle: http://www.renderx.com/tools/docbench.html? Advantages it may offer over standalone oXygen 9 for purpose of technical authoring. It refers to DocBook/TEI, but not DITA, which is supported by oXygen 9. In which ways may XEP (one of the main bundle components, which can also be integrated with oXygen 9) be distinct from or advantageous to FOP .94? And otherwise, would the added value be mainly the offered stylesheets? And would it be the same oXygen UI? Thanks ka

Thanks for that. I do have an "academic" oXygen license, which is inexpensive, For non-commercial use. I just added the free version of XEP 4 as an external tool and it ran perfectly. But for my so far benchmark documents, no difference from FOP 0.93. I do have a problem with table layouts that I couldn't figure yet with FOP 0.94 in general. FOP 0.93 seems to be the best of both FOP worlds currently. XEP's response though gave the impression of faster processing with clearer and more organized runtime output. I believe that Docbench is enhanced with some of Norm Welsh's DocBook stylesheets. It is not clear for me yet, if the regular oXygen 8 license will grant upgrade to version 9 regular. I see a trial counter declining. Can oXygen people please advise about that, about the new build to be made available as upgrades, and about the regular release of oXygen 9? Barton Wright wrote:
If you don't have either a XEP or oXygen license, RenderX's DocBench bundle is a screaming bargain. For US$100 over the base price of XEP Desktop, you get both. As I remember, what DocBench provides is the standard oXygen Professional release, plus XEP in a directory parallel to the FOP directory. There is very little integration, but then, not much is needed. You run the standard oXygen, and can invoke a menu function to generate output through XEP in addition to FOP. One minor disadvantage is that DocBench starts oXygen from its own batch file, not from the clean oxygen.exe executable (for Windows). The startup is a little messy, and leaves a Command Prompt window hanging around.
I no longer run DocBench per se, but instead have separate oXygen and XEP installations, and I call XEP from command-line build scripts.
As for FOP vs XEP, I can only speak to FOP 0.92 vs XEP 4.10. The winner then was XEP by a mile. FOP-generated PDFs had trouble with long tables over page breaks, and other problems that XEP sailed through. I hear the FOP guys have made great strides since 0.92, and I plan to give 0.94 another look. But here's a strong hint as to which one's better: the PDF for Bob Stayton's DocBook XSL book is generated with XEP.
That said, I caution you that there's just no way the RenderX guys have caught up the latest oXygen 9.0 release, which only occurred a few days ago. If you buy DocBench today, you will almost certainly get oXygen 8.2 in the bundle. However, the oXygen guys are very good about sending you the latest license file, even for DocBench users.
*From:* oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] *On Behalf Of *Khaled Aly *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:09 PM *To:* oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com *Subject:* [oXygen-user] Docbench
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Would oXygen or users on list have more information about this bundle: http://www.renderx.com/tools/docbench.html? Advantages it may offer over standalone oXygen 9 for purpose of technical authoring. It refers to DocBook/TEI, but not DITA, which is supported by oXygen 9. In which ways may XEP (one of the main bundle components, which can also be integrated with oXygen 9) be distinct from or advantageous to FOP .94? And otherwise, would the added value be mainly the offered stylesheets? And would it be the same oXygen UI?
Thanks ka

Hello Khaled, oXygen version 9.0 is a new major version. Only the customers with a Maintenance Pack option and the ones who purchased an oXygen license 8 within one month before the oXygen 9.0 release are entitled to receive an upgrade to oXygen 9. The other ones must purchase an upgrade license. These terms are available in the Sales FAQ on the oXygen website: http://www.oxygenxml.com/sales_faq.html Our records show that you have an Academic license purchased in December 2006 without the Maintenance Pack option. Regards, Sorin Khaled Aly wrote:
It is not clear for me yet, if the regular oXygen 8 license will grant upgrade to version 9 regular. I see a trial counter declining. Can oXygen people please advise about that, about the new build to be made available as upgrades, and about the regular release of oXygen 9?

Thank you Sorin, that clarifies. Upgrade license = all 9.x upgrades, maintenance pack = 1-year upgrades. I'm wondering if you got at this time an estimate date for the final release of version 9. Regards Khaled Sorin Ristache wrote:
Hello Khaled,
oXygen version 9.0 is a new major version. Only the customers with a Maintenance Pack option and the ones who purchased an oXygen license 8 within one month before the oXygen 9.0 release are entitled to receive an upgrade to oXygen 9. The other ones must purchase an upgrade license. These terms are available in the Sales FAQ on the oXygen website:
http://www.oxygenxml.com/sales_faq.html
Our records show that you have an Academic license purchased in December 2006 without the Maintenance Pack option.
Regards, Sorin
Khaled Aly wrote:
It is not clear for me yet, if the regular oXygen 8 license will grant upgrade to version 9 regular. I see a trial counter declining. Can oXygen people please advise about that, about the new build to be made available as upgrades, and about the regular release of oXygen 9?
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Hello, Khaled Aly wrote:
Thank you Sorin, that clarifies. Upgrade license = all 9.x upgrades, maintenance pack = 1-year upgrades.
That is correct.
I'm wondering if you got at this time an estimate date for the final release of version 9.
oXygen version 9 was released 10 days ago. I will send you again to the address ka.aly@luxsci.net the notification which you received automatically as an existing customer. The notification was sent to your registered address, that is aly.k@safe-mail.net. Regards, Sorin
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