problem navigating through folders in Open option (Ubuntu 12.04)
I'm starting to do more work in Ubuntu (12.04), and I noticed something very strange. In the latest versions of Author and Editor both, if I go to File --> Open and then navigate down through various directories, I frequently get stuck. Pressing the mouse once or twice often doesn't appear to do anything. Often -- in fact -- Oxygen will wrongly interpret the mouseclick as a desire to rename the directory name I am trying to dive into. Sometimes I need to click the mouse repeatedly and randomly to get into the directory. Maybe it's just a speed/performance issue, but I was wondering if other people had noticed this same problem. (I'm in Unity window manager with Nautilus). Is there some step to make in order to prevent Oxygen from wrongly interpreting my clicking as a request to rename the directory? Thanks. -- Robert Nagle 6121 Winsome Ln #56C, Houston TX 77057-5581 (H) 713 893 3424/ (W) 832-251-7522 Carbon Neutral Since Jan 2010 http://www.robertnagle.info
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/08/2012 11:13 PM, Robert Nagle wrote:
I'm starting to do more work in Ubuntu (12.04), and I noticed something very strange.
In the latest versions of Author and Editor both, if I go to File --> Open and then navigate down through various directories, I frequently get stuck.
Pressing the mouse once or twice often doesn't appear to do anything. Often -- in fact -- Oxygen will wrongly interpret the mouseclick as a desire to rename the directory name I am trying to dive into.
Sometimes I need to click the mouse repeatedly and randomly to get into the directory. Maybe it's just a speed/performance issue, but I was wondering if other people had noticed this same problem. (I'm in Unity window manager with Nautilus). Is there some step to make in order to prevent Oxygen from wrongly interpreting my clicking as a request to rename the directory?
I also use Ubuntu and have noticed that the open dialog is sometimes difficult to deal with. I have to double-click very quickly to drill down and have also noticed the "rename" thing you mentioned. I've taken to using the arrow and enter keys. That may be a Java thing because I've seen it in SoapUI too. On the subject of Oxygen+Ubuntu quirks, you inspired me to mention something in case others have noticed it or knows something similar: For several months now (in 11.10 and 12.04), I've frequently (but not always) had Oxygen's menus stop working when using the mouse/touchpad. I can still use accelerators (e.g. "ALT+f, o" to open a file), but can't use the mouse. A side-effect of being forced to use accelerators is that I'm becoming faster (guess that's why they're called accelerators). The downside is that when this happens, the menu-buttons also do not respond to the mouse. I have to mouse, then use arrow keys, then hit enter (and even that doesn't always work). David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP0th1AAoJEMHeSXG7afUhLJcIAKBm+9e/rAs1iMQ9Wlo9R5um g+s9QL+MzNJRTJFXQNfx3cKDHmNIjkt/V1Fmjii7lwMjSFetTlu+60GABW5HKCVj pSTlI9/jD5/1s08GY/DaNuqa18ILQXbd47Sdzde6Y7Ht0jtiKAG6Cp8NHCHBOEyo ++zZ9bGAvUvIlctNtt5i2f5kYkj989V4D5rRY1PdP6yo6Vfd+2JANWoSVgIiLTun hPmapWykHXeMFN6iikv/ZcAiFma0Asd/kk6BgTIS68bxlr9gvdQtd62I1xhJ4T4j sBao4BewJJoU3ENLCdiHMAKwn9rG8cwygA6fQyYERAqmOaSgcLTRLveZI/5BhCY= =YgN1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hello, @Robert: As David pointed out, the bugs in the Open/Save file chooser dialogs are common to all Java applications because they are present in the Java VM implementation. We are aware of these problems in these dialogs and have tried to bypass them on other platforms (Windows, Mac), but so far we have not found a good way to avoid them for Linux. We have logged your report to our issue tracking tool. @David: We have had one other report of such a bug with the menus, though it was inconsistent. I've added your report to our issue tracking tool. This seems to be another Java related problem. I believe it eventually went away by using OpenJDK instead of the Java SE 6 RE bundled with Oxygen. If you install the OpenJDK JRE on your system, you can bypass the JRE bundled with Oxygen by renaming the 'jre' directory from the Oxygen installation directory. When starting Oxygen, it will use the JRE configured in the JAVA_HOME or the PATH environment variable (in this order). If you encounter any issues when using Oxygen with OpenJDK, I recommend going back to the one bundled with Oxygen by renaming the old jre folder back to its original name: 'jre'. Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza oXygen XML Editor and Author Support support@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com David Cramer wrote:
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On 06/08/2012 11:13 PM, Robert Nagle wrote:
I'm starting to do more work in Ubuntu (12.04), and I noticed something very strange.
In the latest versions of Author and Editor both, if I go to File --> Open and then navigate down through various directories, I frequently get stuck.
Pressing the mouse once or twice often doesn't appear to do anything. Often -- in fact -- Oxygen will wrongly interpret the mouseclick as a desire to rename the directory name I am trying to dive into.
Sometimes I need to click the mouse repeatedly and randomly to get into the directory. Maybe it's just a speed/performance issue, but I was wondering if other people had noticed this same problem. (I'm in Unity window manager with Nautilus). Is there some step to make in order to prevent Oxygen from wrongly interpreting my clicking as a request to rename the directory?
I also use Ubuntu and have noticed that the open dialog is sometimes difficult to deal with. I have to double-click very quickly to drill down and have also noticed the "rename" thing you mentioned. I've taken to using the arrow and enter keys. That may be a Java thing because I've seen it in SoapUI too.
On the subject of Oxygen+Ubuntu quirks, you inspired me to mention something in case others have noticed it or knows something similar:
For several months now (in 11.10 and 12.04), I've frequently (but not always) had Oxygen's menus stop working when using the mouse/touchpad. I can still use accelerators (e.g. "ALT+f, o" to open a file), but can't use the mouse. A side-effect of being forced to use accelerators is that I'm becoming faster (guess that's why they're called accelerators). The downside is that when this happens, the menu-buttons also do not respond to the mouse. I have to mouse, then use arrow keys, then hit enter (and even that doesn't always work).
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Hi I have had similar menu problems with other applications in Ubuntu 11.10 - although I don't remember if they were Java apps. In my case, I was using a laptop. I was able to fix the problem by using a button on the laptop touchpad once, then the problem went away until the next time. It was as if the touchpad "took over" button control until its own "button was pushed". Yeah, I am anthropomorphizing. The imagery fits the circumstances. :-) Not sure if it is relevant, but I installed Mint 12, then added "Cinnamon" and "Enlightenment" desktop environments, and I may have been using either of those or Gnome 3 or "Gnome Classic" at the time. I am not sure if "Gnome Classic" means original "Gnome 2" or Mint's fork of Gnome 2, "Mate". Rob Rob Echlin, 1.613.270.5796 | Skype: rob.echlin.wr -----Original Message----- From: oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Buza Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:36 AM To: David Cramer Cc: oXygen User ML Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] problem navigating through folders in Open option (Ubuntu 12.04) Hello, @Robert: As David pointed out, the bugs in the Open/Save file chooser dialogs are common to all Java applications because they are present in the Java VM implementation. We are aware of these problems in these dialogs and have tried to bypass them on other platforms (Windows, Mac), but so far we have not found a good way to avoid them for Linux. We have logged your report to our issue tracking tool. @David: We have had one other report of such a bug with the menus, though it was inconsistent. I've added your report to our issue tracking tool. This seems to be another Java related problem. I believe it eventually went away by using OpenJDK instead of the Java SE 6 RE bundled with Oxygen. If you install the OpenJDK JRE on your system, you can bypass the JRE bundled with Oxygen by renaming the 'jre' directory from the Oxygen installation directory. When starting Oxygen, it will use the JRE configured in the JAVA_HOME or the PATH environment variable (in this order). If you encounter any issues when using Oxygen with OpenJDK, I recommend going back to the one bundled with Oxygen by renaming the old jre folder back to its original name: 'jre'. Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza oXygen XML Editor and Author Support support@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com David Cramer wrote:
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On 06/08/2012 11:13 PM, Robert Nagle wrote:
I'm starting to do more work in Ubuntu (12.04), and I noticed something very strange.
In the latest versions of Author and Editor both, if I go to File --> Open and then navigate down through various directories, I frequently get stuck.
Pressing the mouse once or twice often doesn't appear to do anything. Often -- in fact -- Oxygen will wrongly interpret the mouseclick as a desire to rename the directory name I am trying to dive into.
Sometimes I need to click the mouse repeatedly and randomly to get into the directory. Maybe it's just a speed/performance issue, but I was wondering if other people had noticed this same problem. (I'm in Unity window manager with Nautilus). Is there some step to make in order to prevent Oxygen from wrongly interpreting my clicking as a request to rename the directory?
I also use Ubuntu and have noticed that the open dialog is sometimes difficult to deal with. I have to double-click very quickly to drill down and have also noticed the "rename" thing you mentioned. I've taken to using the arrow and enter keys. That may be a Java thing because I've seen it in SoapUI too.
On the subject of Oxygen+Ubuntu quirks, you inspired me to mention something in case others have noticed it or knows something similar:
For several months now (in 11.10 and 12.04), I've frequently (but not always) had Oxygen's menus stop working when using the mouse/touchpad. I can still use accelerators (e.g. "ALT+f, o" to open a file), but can't use the mouse. A side-effect of being forced to use accelerators is that I'm becoming faster (guess that's why they're called accelerators). The downside is that when this happens, the menu-buttons also do not respond to the mouse. I have to mouse, then use arrow keys, then hit enter (and even that doesn't always work).
David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
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On 06/11/2012 08:35 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
@David: We have had one other report of such a bug with the menus, though it was inconsistent. I've added your report to our issue tracking tool. This seems to be another Java related problem. I believe it eventually went away by using OpenJDK instead of the Java SE 6 RE bundled with Oxygen. If you install the OpenJDK JRE on your system, you can bypass the JRE bundled with Oxygen by renaming the 'jre' directory from the Oxygen installation directory. When starting Oxygen, it will use the JRE configured in the JAVA_HOME or the PATH environment variable (in this order).
If you encounter any issues when using Oxygen with OpenJDK, I recommend going back to the one bundled with Oxygen by renaming the old jre folder back to its original name: 'jre'.
Hi Adrian, I'm launching Oxygen using JWS. If I configure my system to use OpenJDK's jws (netx), Oxygen never launches. This happens with our JWS version of Oxygen and with the jnlp at the oxygenxml.com site: http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/Editor/Javawebstart/oxygen.jnlp It does download the jars, but then fails to launch oxygen. Let me know if there any logs I should send you. Thanks, David
David, I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..." The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza oXygen XML Editor and Author Support Tel: +1-650-352-1250 ext.202 Fax: +40-251-461482 support@oxygenxml.com http://www.oxygenxml.com David Cramer wrote:
On 06/11/2012 08:35 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
@David: We have had one other report of such a bug with the menus, though it was inconsistent. I've added your report to our issue tracking tool. This seems to be another Java related problem. I believe it eventually went away by using OpenJDK instead of the Java SE 6 RE bundled with Oxygen. If you install the OpenJDK JRE on your system, you can bypass the JRE bundled with Oxygen by renaming the 'jre' directory from the Oxygen installation directory. When starting Oxygen, it will use the JRE configured in the JAVA_HOME or the PATH environment variable (in this order).
If you encounter any issues when using Oxygen with OpenJDK, I recommend going back to the one bundled with Oxygen by renaming the old jre folder back to its original name: 'jre'.
Hi Adrian, I'm launching Oxygen using JWS. If I configure my system to use OpenJDK's jws (netx), Oxygen never launches. This happens with our JWS version of Oxygen and with the jnlp at the oxygenxml.com site:
http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/Editor/Javawebstart/oxygen.jnlp
It does download the jars, but then fails to launch oxygen. Let me know if there any logs I should send you.
Thanks, David
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/27/2012 09:17 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
David,
I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..."
The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Right, but with the Oracle/Sun JRE the menus don't work. So it appears that Oxygen+JWS isn't supported on Linux. Regards, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP6xvAAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhbpIH/AkN40rDmTuilAUHbfyAmVJm BY6qM08y6ckWRHuJmajOaYyAs98Lpa0+iWRGElOCVlxuXxllP64HLWpPXeJWPEAx 1WxHbeuVSwZmd0dzbTFrIptYcJtQm35E8+6PgTJ7mnIOcvxkQNrXCQmRhc/NQEnm t4iMx9Z5DBX4bLlbImqXjAxjKUq/LhScEApYJYWsomCX1EPvle+yPGNQGSHf3ai3 EHHWZqNO4qHl5u40kMbTP5amcmArCMYwlLqfm37HhgM41dxDGYwUmPTsDqgvjXrH Ncb1xrks2GexU9iHrUl800zY6Lvm5QVMju632FuyB9wEkAJolybvib8Fjw25aLE= =h6Yv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
We have tested Oxygen with Java SE 6 update 32 in Ubuntu 12 and did not encounter any issues with the menus. What version of Oracle JRE are you currently using with Oxygen? Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support On 27.06.2012, at 17:42, David Cramer <david@thingbag.net> wrote:
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On 06/27/2012 09:17 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
David,
I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..."
The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Right, but with the Oracle/Sun JRE the menus don't work. So it appears that Oxygen+JWS isn't supported on Linux.
Regards, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
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Hi again David, Could you please try running Oxygen with Java SE Update 33? We have received one report of this particular JRE version fixing the issues with the menus in Gnome 3. The discussion is on our forum: http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/topic6993.html Please let me know if this new JRE version works any better for you. Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support On 27.06.2012, at 20:47, Adrian Buza <adrian@sync.ro> wrote:
We have tested Oxygen with Java SE 6 update 32 in Ubuntu 12 and did not encounter any issues with the menus. What version of Oracle JRE are you currently using with Oxygen?
Regards, Adrian
Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support
On 27.06.2012, at 17:42, David Cramer <david@thingbag.net> wrote:
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On 06/27/2012 09:17 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
David,
I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..."
The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Right, but with the Oracle/Sun JRE the menus don't work. So it appears that Oxygen+JWS isn't supported on Linux.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adrian, I've been meaning to follow up on this. I happen to have gotten an SSD for my laptop the other day and took the occasion to reinstall Ubuntu, keeping only my home directory. For now, I'm giving Unity a chance to prove itself (it finally seems to be coming along...at least it's usable with dual displays now). Using Java 1.7.0_05 I have installed via JWS and the menus are working find so far. Here are the only quirks I've noticed in the new environment. In the Open File dialog, the Open button is not selected by default (so to drill down to a file, I have to either click the Open button or tab till it has focus and hit Enter). This is slightly annoying, but I can live with it. (Our) JWS does create a desktop icon, but, as with the Mac, I get a generic icon in the Dash and when I alt-tab. Strangely, for a couple of days after I installed it, the Oxygen icon appeared in the alt-tab and dash, but now it's a generic icon. I should also mention that although we upgraded to the newer build that was supposed to have fixed the generic icon problem on the Mac, it still persists. You can inspect our JWS package here: http://docs.rackspace.com/oxygen/ On Linux, I an live with this, but it is quite an annoyance for our Mac users. I still have the old drive and will try to find time to boot off if it to test Java SE Update 33 in Gnome 3. Thanks, David On 06/29/2012 02:42 PM, Adrian Buza wrote:
Hi again David,
Could you please try running Oxygen with Java SE Update 33? We have received one report of this particular JRE version fixing the issues with the menus in Gnome 3.
The discussion is on our forum: http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/topic6993.html
Please let me know if this new JRE version works any better for you.
Regards, Adrian
Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support
On 27.06.2012, at 20:47, Adrian Buza <adrian@sync.ro> wrote:
We have tested Oxygen with Java SE 6 update 32 in Ubuntu 12 and did not encounter any issues with the menus. What version of Oracle JRE are you currently using with Oxygen?
Regards, Adrian
Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support
On 27.06.2012, at 17:42, David Cramer <david@thingbag.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2012 09:17 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
David,
I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..."
The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Right, but with the Oracle/Sun JRE the menus don't work. So it appears that Oxygen+JWS isn't supported on Linux.
Regards, David
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Hello David, Did you get the chance to test Oxygen with Java SE Update 33 in Gnome 3? Regards, Adrian Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support David Cramer wrote:
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Hi Adrian, I've been meaning to follow up on this. I happen to have gotten an SSD for my laptop the other day and took the occasion to reinstall Ubuntu, keeping only my home directory. For now, I'm giving Unity a chance to prove itself (it finally seems to be coming along...at least it's usable with dual displays now). Using Java 1.7.0_05 I have installed via JWS and the menus are working find so far.
Here are the only quirks I've noticed in the new environment.
In the Open File dialog, the Open button is not selected by default (so to drill down to a file, I have to either click the Open button or tab till it has focus and hit Enter). This is slightly annoying, but I can live with it.
(Our) JWS does create a desktop icon, but, as with the Mac, I get a generic icon in the Dash and when I alt-tab. Strangely, for a couple of days after I installed it, the Oxygen icon appeared in the alt-tab and dash, but now it's a generic icon. I should also mention that although we upgraded to the newer build that was supposed to have fixed the generic icon problem on the Mac, it still persists. You can inspect our JWS package here: http://docs.rackspace.com/oxygen/ On Linux, I an live with this, but it is quite an annoyance for our Mac users.
I still have the old drive and will try to find time to boot off if it to test Java SE Update 33 in Gnome 3.
Thanks, David
On 06/29/2012 02:42 PM, Adrian Buza wrote:
Hi again David,
Could you please try running Oxygen with Java SE Update 33? We have received one report of this particular JRE version fixing the issues with the menus in Gnome 3.
The discussion is on our forum: http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/topic6993.html
Please let me know if this new JRE version works any better for you.
Regards, Adrian
Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support
On 27.06.2012, at 20:47, Adrian Buza <adrian@sync.ro> wrote:
We have tested Oxygen with Java SE 6 update 32 in Ubuntu 12 and did not encounter any issues with the menus. What version of Oracle JRE are you currently using with Oxygen?
Regards, Adrian
Adrian Buza Oxygen XML Editor Support
On 27.06.2012, at 17:42, David Cramer <david@thingbag.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2012 09:17 AM, Adrian Buza wrote:
David,
I can confirm that Oxygen will not work with OpenJDK's javaws (icedtea-netx). Running javaws in verbose mode shows that it hangs when verifying the embedded JNLP signature: "APPLICATION.JNLP has been located within signed JAR. Starting verfication..."
The only solution we've found is to use a Java SE JRE from Oracle/Sun: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Right, but with the Oracle/Sun JRE the menus don't work. So it appears that Oxygen+JWS isn't supported on Linux.
Regards, David
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